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From FHL Microfilm 1981704 A-Z Surname Index Indexing Project Index to AL-11405 © copyright 1998 by FEEFHS, all rights reserved Acknowledgement:FEEFHS extends its sincere thanks to Tim Presber, a FEEFHS volunteer indexer of Calgary, Alberta, Canada for indexing this film. Background die Ahnenstammkartei des Deutschen Volkes (about 1240 microfilm reels) is the largest German pedigree collection extant. This film comes from a "second filming" of pedigrees from Die Ahnenstammkartei. This second filming consists of 19 Microfilms (numbers 1981701 through 1981719). Contents of This Film: This film is known to contain the pedigrees of at least 13 families. This is the pedigree index to the submission and genealogy from Poßner (Possner) in AL11405 - 4 files plus an index of them. Understanding the Format below:
Surname, Given Name ... Vital Date ... Location ... Ahnentafeln (AL) Number Arnold, Karl Friedrich Eduard ... M ... ... 11405 Arnold, Karl Friedrich Moritz ... 1884B ... ... 11405 Arnold, Karl Friedrich Moritz ... 1971D ... Falkenhain ... 11405 Arnold, Karl Friedrich Moritz ... 1905M ... Zangenberg in Aylsdorf ... 11405 Arnold, Martha Frieda ... 1913B ... Zeitz ... 11405 Arnold, Martha Frieda ... 1933M ... Zipsendorf ... 11405 Bachmann, Friedrich Karl ... 1818B ... Oschatz ... 11405 Bachmann, Friedrich Karl ... 1877D ... Dresden ... 11405 Bachmann, Friedrich Karl ... M ... ... 11405 Bachmann, Johann Christoph ... M ... ... 11405 Bachmann, Maria Ida ... 1850B ... Dresden ... 11405 Bachmann, Maria Ida ... 1878D ... ... 11405 Bachmann, Maria Ida ... 1869M ... Dresden ... 11405 Baesigk, Ursula Annette Erika ... 1917B ... ... 11405 Baesigk, Ursula Annette Erika ... 1942M ... Berlin-Spandau ... 11405 Barthel, Elsa Christa ... 1936B ... ... 11405 Barthel, Elsa Christa ... 1958M ... Zeitz ... 11405 Barthel, Karl Friedrich ... 1932D ... Thondorf ... 11405 Barthel, Karl Friedrich ... M ... ... 11405 Barthel, Paul Albert Hans ... 1906B ... Thondorf ... 11405 Barthel, Paul Albert Hans ... 1983D ... Zeitz ... 11405 Barthel, Paul Albert Hans ... 1935M ... Augsdorf ... 11405 Baumgärtner (Baumgaertner / Baumgartner), Eva Maria ... 1784B ... ... 11405 Baumgärtner (Baumgaertner / Baumgartner), Eva Maria ... 1863D ... Linda ... 11405 Baumgärtner (Baumgaertner / Baumgartner), Eva Maria ... 1807M ... ... 11405 Beckmann, Anna Marie ... 1734B ... ... 11405 Beckmann, Anna Marie ... 1798D ... Linda ... 11405 Beckmann, Anna Marie ... 1751M ... ... 11405 Beckmann, Maria Rosina ... 1748B ... Volkmannsdorf ... 11405 Beckmann, Maria Rosina ... M ... Volkmannsdorf ... 11405 Beer, Ernestine Wilhelmine Pauline ... 1842B ... ... 11405 Beer, Ernestine Wilhelmine Pauline ... 1918D ... Tautendorf ... 11405 Beer, Ernestine Wilhelmine Pauline ... 1868M ... Schwarzbach ... 11405 Berendt, Anna ... 1645B ... Gatterstädt (Gatterstaedt / Gatterstadt) ... 11405 Berendt, Anna ... 1696D ... Lodersleben ... 11405 Berendt, Anna ... 1666B ... ... 11405 Berendt, Nicolai ... 1610B ... ... 11405 Berendt, Nicolai ... 1668D ... Gatterstädt (Gatterstaedt / Gatterstadt) ... 11405 Berendt, Nicolai ... 1633M ... ... 11405 Berger, Carl ... 1790B ... Märzdorf (Maerzdorf / Marzdorf) ... 11405 Berger, Carl ... 1815M ... Großwartenberg (Grosswartenberg) ... 11405 Berger, Johanna ... 1815B ... Märzdorf (Maerzdorf / Marzdorf) ... 11405 Berger, Johanna ... 1881D ... Popow ... 11405 Berger, Johanna ... 1833M ... Großwartenberg (Grosswartenberg) ... 11405 Bergmann, Johann Carl Gottfried ... 1798B ... ... 11405 Bergmann, Johann Carl Gottfried ... 1876D ... ... 11405 Bergmann, Johann Carl Gottfried ... 1824M ... Lampersdorf ... 11405 Bergmann, Johann Christian ... M ... ... 11405 Bergmann, Johann Gottlob ... 1766B ... ... 11405 Bergmann, Johann Gottlob ... 1830D ... Dahlen ... 11405 Bergmann, Johann Gottlob ... 1794M ... ... 11405 Bergmann, Johanna Wilhelmine Friederike ... 1833B ... Dahlen ... 11405 Bergmann, Johanna Wilhelmine Friederike ... 1901D ... Gröba (Groeba / Groba) ... 11405 Bergmann, Johanna Wilhelmine Friederike ... 1858M ... Dahlen ... 11405 Bergmann, Johanna Wilhelmine Friederike ... 1877M ... ... 11405 Bergmann, Minna Frieda ... 1884B ... ... 11405 Bergmann, Minna Frieda ... 1951D ... Senftenberg ... 11405 Bergmann, Minna Frieda ... 1910M ... Luckenwalde ... 11405 Bergmann, Robert Emil ... 1855B ... Dahlen ... 11405 Bergmann, Robert Emil ... 1906D ... Wadewitz ... 11405 Bergmann, Robert Emil ... 1879M ... Borna ... 11405 Bermich, Johann Christiana ... 1794B ... ... 11405 Bermich, Johann Christiana ... 1813M ... Moderwitz ... 11405 Bezold, Johann Maria ... 1778B ... Jena ... 11405 Bezold, Johann Maria ... 1847D ... ... 11405 Bezold, Johann Maria ... 1809M ... ... 11405 Birke, Friederike ... 1800B ... ... 11405 Birke, Friederike ... 1885D ... Bunzlau ... 11405 Birke, Friederike ... M ... ... 11405 Blöther (Bloether / Blother), Anna Catharina ... 1683B ... ... 11405 Blöther (Bloether / Blother), Anna Catharina ... 1753D ... Linda ... 11405 Blöther (Bloether / Blother), Anna Catharina ... 1713M ... ... 11405 Blöthner (Blödner / Bloethner / Blother / Bloedner / Blodner), Hannß (Hannss) ... 1719D ... Linda ... 11405 Blöthner (Blödner / Bloethner / Blother / Bloedner / Blodner), Hannß (Hannss) ... 1670M ... Moßbach (Mossbach) ... 11405 Blöthner (Blödner / Bloethner / Blother / Bloedner / Blodner), Hannß (Hannss) ... 1691M ... ... 11405 Blöthner (Bloethner / Blothner), Anna Catharina ... 1683B ... ... 11405 Blöthner (Bloethner / Blothner), Anna Catharina ... 1753D ... Linda ... 11405 Blöthner (Bloethner / Blothner), Anna Catharina ... 1713M ... ... 11405 Blöthner (Bloethner / Blothner), Anna Catharina ... 1683B ... ... 11405 Blöthner (Bloethner / Blothner), Anna Catharina ... 1753D ... Linda ... 11405 Blöthner (Bloethner / Blothner), Anna Catharina ... 1713M ... ... 11405 Blöthner (Bloethner / Blothner), Christiane ... 1697B ... ... 11405 Blöthner (Bloethner / Blothner), Christiane ... 1778D ... Linda ... 11405 Blöthner (Bloethner / Blothner), Christiane ... 1729M ... ... 11405 Blöthner (Bloethner / Blothner), Hannß (Hannss) ... 1717D ... ... 11405 Blöthner (Bloethner / Blothner), Hannß (Hannss) ... 1670M ... Moßbach (Mossbach) ... 11405 Böhm (Böhme / Boehm / Bohm / Boehme / Bohme), Friedrich Wilhelm ... 1808B ... ... 11405 Böhm (Böhme / Boehm / Bohm / Boehme / Bohme), Friedrich Wilhelm ... 1831M ... Oberlungwitz ... 11405 Böhm (Boehm / Bohm), Christiane Wilhelmine ... 1841B ... Jahnsdorf/Erzg. ... 11405 Böhm (Boehm / Bohm), Christiane Wilhelmine ... 1926D ... Leukersdorf ... 11405 Böhm (Boehm / Bohm), Christiane Wilhelmine ... M ... ... 11405 Böhm (Boehm / Bohm), Johann Gottfried ... M ... ... 11405 Böttger (Boettger / Bottger), Andreas ... M ... ... 11405 Böttger (Boettger / Bottger), Anna Maria ... 1777M ... Borna ... 11405 Böttger (Boettger / Bottger), Sybilla ... 1742D ... ... 11405 Böttger (Boettger / Bottger), Sybilla ... M ... ... 11405 Boesigk, Ernst Carl ... 1888B ... ... 11405 Boesigk, Ernst Carl ... 1941D ... Charlottenburg ... 11405 Boesigk, Ernst Carl ... 1915M ... Spandau ... 11405 Boley (Poley), Hans ... 1630D ... Mariae ... 11405 Boley, Gertrud ... 1612B ... Schleberoda ... 11405 Boley, Gertrud ... 1633M ... ... 11405 Born, Albert ... 1835B ... ... 11405 Born, Albert ... 1921D ... ... 11405 Born, Albert ... M ... ... 11405 Born, Friedrich Karl ... 1863B ... Augsdorf ... 11405 Born, Friedrich Karl ... 1942D ... ... 11405 Born, Friedrich Karl ... M ... ... 11405 Born, Martha Elsa ... 1904B ... Augsdorf ... 11405 Born, Martha Elsa ... 1970D ... Speyer ... 11405 Born, Martha Elsa ... 1935M ... Augsdorf ... 11405 Broßmann (Brossmann), Andreas ... M ... ... 11405 Broßmann (Brossmann), Eva Maria ... 1742B ... Löma (Loema / Loma) bei Schleiz ... 11405 Broßmann (Brossmann), Eva Maria ... 1804D ... Pahnstangen ... 11405 Broßmann (Brossmann), Eva Maria ... 1763M ... Löma (Loema / Loma) ... 11405 Broßmann (Brossmann), Johann Georg ... 1717B ... ... 11405 Broßmann (Brossmann), Johann Georg ... 1739M ... ... 11405 Brummer, Christiane Caroline ... 1804B ... Kleinfalka ... 11405 Brummer, Christiane Caroline ... 1844D ... Schmirchau ... 11405 Brummer, Christiane Caroline ... 1826M ... Veitsberg ... 11405 Büttner (Buettner / Buttner), Johanne Christiane Sophie ... 1808B ... Arnshaugk ... 11405 Büttner (Buettner / Buttner), Johanne Christiane Sophie ... 1870D ... Moderwitz ... 11405 Büttner (Buettner / Buttner), Johanne Christiane Sophie ... 1830M ... ... 11405 Bucher, Christine ... 1716D ... Culmitzsch ... 11405 Bucher, Christine ... 1678M ... Trünzig (Truenzig / Trunzig) ... 11405 Bucher, Hans ... M ... ... 11405 Chemnitzer, Carl August ... 1759B ... ... 11405 Chemnitzer, Carl August ... 1836D ... Lampersdorf ... 11405 Chemnitzer, Carl August ... M ... ... 11405 Chemnitzer, Johanna Christiana ... 1802B ... Limbach ... 11405 Chemnitzer, Johanna Christiana ... 1881D ... Dahlen ... 11405 Chemnitzer, Johanna Christiana ... 1824M ... Lampersdorf ... 11405 Daßler (Dassler), Marie Elisabeth ... 1751M ... ... 11405 Dietrich, Dorothea Elisabeth ... 1749B ... ... 11405 Dietrich, Dorothea Elisabeth ... 1823D ... ... 11405 Dietrich, Dorothea Elisabeth ... 1773M ... ... 11405 Dietrich, Elisabeth ... 1702M ... ... 11405 Dietrich, Johann Ernst ... 1789B ... ... 11405 Dietrich, Johann Ernst ... 1855D ... ... 11405 Dietrich, Johann Ernst ... 1809M ... ... 11405 Dietrich, Johann Georg ... 1751B ... ... 11405 Dietrich, Johann Georg ... 1808D ... ... 11405 Dietrich, Johann Georg ... M ... ... 11405 Dietrich, Maria ... 1699B ... ... 11405 Dietrich, Maria ... 1777D ... Cripendorf ... 11405 Dietrich, Maria ... 1726M ... Pahren ... 11405 Dietrich, Rosina Christiane Henriette ... 1816B ... ... 11405 Dietrich, Rosina Christiane Henriette ... 1857D ... Moderwitz ... 11405 Dietrich, Rosina Christiane Henriette ... 1839M ... ... 11405 Dreßler (Dressler), Hans ... 1623D ... ... 11405 Dreßler (Dressler), Martha ... 1602B ... ... 11405 Dreßler (Dressler), Martha ... 1671D ... Lampersdorf ... 11405 Dreßler (Dressler), Martha ... 1623M ... ... 11405 Dunger, Marie Rosine ... 1760B ... Zwirtschen ... 11405 Dunger, Marie Rosine ... 1776M ... Culmitzsch ... 11405 Ehrnei, Martha ... 1609M ... Linda ... 11405 Enck (Encke), Joh. Erhard ... 1730B ... ... 11405 Enck (Encke), Joh. Erhard ... 1797D ... ... 11405 Enck (Encke), Joh. Erhard ... 1763M ... Löhma (Loehma / Lohma) ... 11405 Enck, Christiana ... 1774B ... Pahnstangen ... 11405 Enck, Christiana ... 1843D ... ... 11405 Enck, Christiana ... 1793M ... ... 11405 Enck, Hans ... 1668B ... ... 11405 Enck, Hans ... 1726D ... Pahnstangen ... 11405 Enck, Hans ... 1700M ... ... 11405 Enck, Johannes Erhard ... 1699B ... Pahnstangen ... 11405 Enck, Johannes Erhard ... 1770D ... ... 11405 Enck, Johannes Erhard ... 1728M ... ... 11405 Erhardt, Catharina ... 1605B ... ... 11405 Erhardt, Catharina ... 1688D ... Weira ... 11405 Erhardt, Catharina ... 1625M ... ... 11405 Falke, Elisabeth Christina ... 1732M ... Köthnitz (Koethnitz / Kothnitz) ... 11405 Fankhänel (Fankhaenel / Fankhanel), Wilhelmine Henriette ... 1831M ... Oberlungwitz ... 11405 Fetisch (Vötisch / Voetisch / Votisch), Georg ... 1665B ... ... 11405 Fetisch (Vötisch / Voetisch / Votisch), Georg ... 1716D ... Linda ... 11405 Fetisch (Vötisch / Voetisch / Votisch), Georg ... M ... ... 11405 Fetsch (Fetisch), Hanns Christoph ... 1745B ... ... 11405 Fetsch (Fetisch), Hanns Christoph ... 1832D ... ... 11405 Fetsch (Fetisch), Hanns Christoph ... 1775M ... ... 11405 Fetsch (Fötsch / Foetsch / Fotsch), Maria Elisabeth ... 1778B ... Linda ... 11405 Fetsch (Fötsch / Foetsch / Fotsch), Maria Elisabeth ... 1846D ... ... 11405 Fetsch (Fötsch / Foetsch / Fotsch), Maria Elisabeth ... 1801M ... ... 11405 Fetsch, Johannes Simon ... 1708B ... ... 11405 Fetsch, Johannes Simon ... 1788D ... ... 11405 Fetsch, Johannes Simon ... 1729M ... Ober-Pöllnitz (Poellnitz / Pollnitz) ... 11405 Fetsch, Johannes Simon ... 1738M ... ... 11405 Fischer, Rosine Elisabeth ... 1770M ... ... 11405 Fischer, Ute Hilde ... 1960B ... Grombach ... 11405 Fischer, Ute Hilde ... 1987M ... Karlsruhe ... 11405 Fleischer, Pauline ... M ... ... 11405 Förster (Foerster / Forster), Auguste Clothilde ... 1832B ... Kirchain ... 11405 Förster (Foerster / Forster), Auguste Clothilde ... 1891D ... Schlöben (Schloeben / Schloben) ... 11405 Förster (Foerster / Forster), Auguste Clothilde ... 1854M ... Lößnitz (Loessnitz / Lossnitz) ... 11405 Förster (Foerster / Forster), Karl Leberecht ... 1795B ... Lößnitz (Loessnitz / Lossnitz)/ErzG. ... 11405 Förster (Foerster / Forster), Karl Leberecht ... 1874D ... Pfarrkeßlar (Pfarrkesslar) ... 11405 Förster (Foerster / Forster), Karl Leberecht ... 1826M ... Schneeeberg ... 11405 Franke, Bartolomäus (Bartolomaeus / Bartolomaus) ... 1660B ... ... 11405 Franke, Bartolomäus (Bartolomaeus / Bartolomaus) ... 1728D ... ... 11405 Franke, Bartolomäus (Bartolomaeus / Bartolomaus) ... 1686M ... ... 11405 Franke, Hanß (Hanss) ... 1640D ... ... 11405 Franke, Hanß (Hanss) ... M ... ... 11405 Franke, Marie ... 1688B ... ... 11405 Franke, Marie ... 1743D ... Linda ... 11405 Franke, Marie ... 1715M ... Weckersdorf ... 11405 Franke, Petrus ... 1629B ... ... 11405 Franke, Petrus ... 1675D ... ... 11405 Franke, Petrus ... 1657M ... ... 11405 Franz, Hanß (Hanss) Adam ... 1746B ... ... 11405 Franz, Hanß (Hanss) Adam ... 1808D ... ... 11405 Franz, Hanß (Hanss) Adam ... 1773M ... ... 11405 Franz, Hanß (Hanss) Adam ... 1709B ... ... 11405 Franz, Hanß (Hanss) Adam ... 1734M ... ... 11405 Franz, Hanß (Hanss) Adam ... 1744M ... ... 11405 Franz, Hanß (Hanss) Georg ... 1680B ... ... 11405 Franz, Hanß (Hanss) Georg ... 1757D ... Linda ... 11405 Franz, Hanß (Hanss) Georg ... 1703M ... Kleina ... 11405 Franz, Hanß (Hanss) Georg ... 1712M ... Linda ... 11405 Franz, Joh. Adam ... 1775B ... ... 11405 Franz, Joh. Adam ... 1820D ... ... 11405 Franz, Joh. Adam ... 1807M ... ... 11405 Franz, Marie Justine Sophie ... 1808B ... ... 11405 Franz, Marie Justine Sophie ... 1851D ... ... 11405 Franz, Marie Justine Sophie ... 1801M ... ... 11405 Fratzscher, Anna ... 1592B ... ... 11405 Fratzscher, Anna ... 1633D ... ... 11405 Fratzscher, Anna ... 1613M ... ... 11405 Friedrich, Anna Marie Rosine ... B ... Schreibersdorf ... 11405 Friedrich, Anna Marie Rosine ... M ... ... 11405 Friedrich, Anna Marie Rosine ... 1822M ... Lauben ... 11405 Fritsche (Fritzshe), Anna Gertraude ... 1746B ... ... 11405 Fritsche (Fritzshe), Anna Gertraude ... 1808D ... ... 11405 Fritsche (Fritzshe), Anna Gertraude ... 1770M ... ... 11405 Fritsche, Ernestine Pauline ... 1853B ... ... 11405 Fritsche, Ernestine Pauline ... 1919D ... ... 11405 Fritsche, Ernestine Pauline ... 1872M ... Linda ... 11405 Fritsche, Hans ... 1742D ... Linda ... 11405 Fritsche, Hans ... 1706M ... Läwitz (Laewitz / Lawitz) ... 11405 Fritsche, Hans Adam ... 1712B ... ... 11405 Fritsche, Hans Adam ... 1798D ... Podelsatz ... 11405 Fritsche, Joh. Christian ... 1781B ... ... 11405 Fritsche, Joh. Christian ... 1807M ... ... 11405 Fritsche, Johann Adam ... 1753B ... ... 11405 Fritsche, Johann Adam ... 1829D ... ... 11405 Fritsche, Johann Adam ... 1777M ... O8lknitz ... 11405 Fritsche, Johann Daniel ... 1811B ... ... 11405 Fritsche, Johann Daniel ... 1869D ... ... 11405 Fritsche, Johann Daniel ... 1848M ... ... 11405 Fritsche, Johann Georg ... 1750B ... ... 11405 Fritsche, Johann Georg ... 1827D ... ... 11405 Fritsche, Johann Georg ... 1770M ... ... 11405 Fritsche, Johann Michael ... 1787B ... ... 11405 Fritsche, Johann Michael ... 1852D ... ... 11405 Fritsche, Johann Michael ... 1809M ... Stadtroda ... 11405 Fritsche, Johanne Regina ... 1817B ... ... 11405 Fritsche, Johanne Regina ... 1900D ... ... 11405 Fritsche, Johanne Regina ... 1839M ... ... 11405 Fritsche, Johannes ... 1714B ... ... 11405 Fritsche, Johannes ... 1783D ... ... 11405 Fritsche, Johannes ... 1743M ... ... 11405 Fuchs, Elly Hilda ... 1910B ... ... 11405 Fuchs, Elly Hilda ... 1956D ... Gera ... 11405 Fuchs, Elly Hilda ... 1933M ... Großbocke (Grossbocke) ... 11405 Fuchs, Emil Oskar ... 1869B ... Törpla (Toerpla / Torpla) bei Eisenberg ... 11405 Fuchs, Emil Oskar ... 1932D ... ... 11405 Fuchs, Emil Oskar ... 1899M ... Lindenkreuz ... 11405 Fuchs, Joh. Heinrich August ... 1835B ... Ottendorf ... 11405 Fuchs, Joh. Heinrich August ... 1910D ... ... 11405 Fuchs, Joh. Heinrich August ... 1868M ... Schwarzbach ... 11405 Garbe, Anna Maria ... 1761B ... ... 11405 Garbe, Anna Maria ... 1836D ... Naustadt ... 11405 Garbe, Anna Maria ... 1790M ... Constappel ... 11405 Garbe, Johann Michael ... 1758M ... Constappel ... 11405 Gering, Elisabeth ... 1751M ... ... 11405 Glaser, Johann Georg Friedrich ... 1794B ... ... 11405 Glaser, Johann Georg Friedrich ... 1848D ... ... 11405 Glaser, Johann Georg Friedrich ... 1817M ... Stadtroda ... 11405 Glaser, Johanne Friederike ... 1820B ... ... 11405 Glaser, Johanne Friederike ... 1865D ... Podelsatz ... 11405 Glaser, Johanne Friederike ... 1848M ... Stadtroda ... 11405 Glaser, Johanne Rosine ... 1787B ... ... 11405 Glaser, Johanne Rosine ... 1856D ... Podelsatz ... 11405 Glaser, Johanne Rosine ... 1809M ... Stadtroda ... 11405 Göppner (Roßbach / Goeppner / Goppner / Rossbach), Hulda Pauline ... 1857B ... Schwarzbach ... 11405 Göppner (Roßbach / Goeppner / Goppner / Rossbach), Hulda Pauline ... 1902D ... Zeitz ... 11405 Göppner (Roßbach / Goeppner / Goppner / Rossbach), Hulda Pauline ... 1879M ... Lissen ... 11405 Götze (Goetze / Gotze), Caspar ... 1710B ... ... 11405 Götze (Goetze / Gotze), Caspar ... 1732M ... ... 11405 Götze (Goetze / Gotze), Georg ... 1699D ... Köthnitz (Koethnitz / Kothnitz) ... 11405 Götze (Goetze / Gotze), Hannß (Hannss) ... 1729D ... ... 11405 Götze (Goetze / Gotze), Hannß (Hannss) ... 1699M ... ... 11405 Götze (Goetze / Gotze), Hannß (Hannss) ... 1709M ... Köthnitz (Koethnitz / Kothnitz) ... 11405 Götze (Goetze / Gotze), Maria Katharina ... 1691B ... ... 11405 Götze (Goetze / Gotze), Maria Katharina ... 1761D ... ... 11405 Götze (Goetze / Gotze), Maria Katharina ... 1712M ... ... 11405 Götze (Goetze / Gotze), Marie Margarethe ... 1747B ... Köthnitz (Koethnitz / Kothnitz) ... 11405 Götze (Goetze / Gotze), Marie Margarethe ... 1816D ... Volkmannsdorf ... 11405 Götze (Goetze / Gotze), Marie Margarethe ... 1769M ... ... 11405 Goehr, Theresia ... 1830M ... Katscher ... 11405 |